Worship on Remembrance Sunday
10:00 am November 09, 2025
Minister: The Rev. Brad Childs Service led by: Major (Padre) Kenneth MacRae
Music Director: Binu Kapadia Vocalists: Sam and Ann May Malayang
Welcoming Elder: Jane de Caen Children’s time: Padre Ken
Reader: Tracy Childs
We gather to worship God
Music prelude
Greeting
L: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you
P: and also with you
Lighting of the Christ candle
Welcome and announcements
Preparation for worship
The National Anthem: O Canada vs 1
Memorial Message
O God, we remember . . .
We remember today that you are the giver of every good gift, and one of your gifts is peace. You have blessed us with freedom, and you have met all our needs.
O God, help us never to forget your gifts.
We remember those who gave their lives in two world wars, the Korean War and other countless conflicts. We know that their sacrifice is part of your gift of peace and freedom.
O God, help us never to forget the price they paid.
Lord Jesus Christ, you said that people have no greater love than to lay down their life for their friends. You laid down your life for us, and you call us your friends. Those who were killed or maimed or scarred in wars laid down a piece of their lives for us. Some their whole lives.
They did as you did.
O God, help us to live lives worthy of their sacrifices and also yours.
We remember that you alone are the source of peace and justice. We pray with all our hearts for peace in our times. Bring true peace to those places where conflicts continue to smolder.
O God, bring an end to hatred and senseless violence, and give peace in our time that last long after we are gone.
We remember, God, that homes and workplaces, schools and streets are not always places of peace. Yet you have offered us the way of peace through the love of Jesus Christ.
O God, help us to accept your offer and to find another way, the way of Love, the way of the healer and great physician – Jesus Your son.
We hold up before you, all those who work for peace: For you have said, “Blessed are the peacemakers”.
O God, help us to be peacemakers and peacekeepers in our homes, our communities and our world.
. . . may we ever pray: Lord God of Hosts: Be with us yet,
In Flanders Field
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Last Post
1 minute of Silence
Reveille
Act of Remembrance
They shall grow not old,
as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them,
nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun
and in the morning
We will remember them.
RESPONSE: We will remember them.
Call to worship
L: On this day of memories, we gather to sing and to pray;
P: we remember the past and look to the future.
L: On this day when the guns and cannons fell silent,
P: we come before you, God, seeking your peace.
L: On this day of hope in the face of terror,
P: we come before you, God, believing in your promise.
L: Let us worship God together, in peace
Opening praise: Great are you, Lord
Prayers of Adoration and Confession
Loving God, this morning and on Remembrance Day we pause to remember those who have sacrificed so much in defence of our nation. We remember those who never made it home and are thankful for those who did come home. Some have had their body, minds or souls forever damaged by the destruction of war, or the horrors that they have seen and experiences. We gather as a congregation to give praise to you who knows all about sacrifice. We praise you for Jesus Christ, who out of love for all of us, went to the cross, and died for us so that we might have eternal life through him. We thank you for that love that has been shown to us in many different ways through family, friends, teachers, and our brothers and sisters in Christ.
Lord, we confess that we have not always returned that love to others. We still live in a world where there is much hatred and bigotry. We live in a world of terror where people like to do harm to people and to make others live in fear. And we are not people who tend to not forgive others easily. Help us to seek justice, without releasing undue anger or violence. Forgive us for the times when fear has paralysed our acts of love and kindness. Give to us the courage and the wisdom to know when we must stand up to help those who are weaker than ourselves. Guide us in knowing what is your will for our life. This we pray in Christ’s name. Amen.
Response: We come to ask your forgiveness
Assurance of God’s peace
In John 14:27 Jesus states, “Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you.”
Let us receive the mercy that Christ freely gives to us and be at peace with the Lord.
We listen for the voice of God
Music Open our eyes, Lord” (445)
Children’s time
The youth made a wreath with a lot of poppies and want it presented during the children’s story.
Wreaths: Date back to ancient Greece and Rome and were worn as crowns by victors and symbolized both victory and death. Today wreaths are laid to honor the sacrifices of armed forces members who have died in the line of service.
In the services, you will often (almost always) see a military member leading a civilian up to place the wreath. They stop and salute.
Today, lets pretend you are in the military and I’m going to teach you how to salute, with the help of my good friend Sgt Dave Smith.
Now a few tricks to learn.
- The one who is the lower rank salutes first. He is a Sgt and I’m a Major.
He starts and has to keep saluting until I salute him back. - Right hand, straight
- Marching – start with left foot
Saluting and marching.
- Dave can instruct
- Start left foot, etc
- Have the children present wreath and salute
The Lord’s Prayer (535)
Song: The kingdom of God is justice and joy ( 787)
Scripture readings: Genesis 34:11-31; Psalm 17:1-9;
2 Thessalonians 2:1-5,13-17; Luke 20:27-38
Response: Thy word is a lamp unto my feet
Message: Justice vs Vengeance
Have you ever had a strange idea or thought that you cannot get rid of?
You are trying to get to sleep and your mind is thinking, “How do dragons blow out candles?”
I used to love the show Home Improvement with Tim Allen.
He would get this strange idea to add more power to basically everything.
Everyone needs a supercharged v8 lawnmower.
He would add Christmas lights to him home that could guide in airplanes.
It was a funny show.
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Well over a month ago I had Brad contact me about doing today’s service.
In my daily devotions at home, I had just read Genesis 34.
We read this text this morning about how brothers got revenge against the people who had raped their sister.
They were able to convince a city that every male should be circumcised to give honour to their faith.
Long story short, while the men were recovering, the two brothers went into that city and killed all the males.
My mind had this strange thought that this would be a great text for Remembrance Day.
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Immediately my mind also thought, “This is a stupid idea!”
I could preach on peace.
I could preach on love thy enemy.
I could preach on how anger needs to be turned into calmness and understanding.
I could preach on many great texts in the Bible.
But no….my mind kept thinking…a text where 2 people killed a city of men would be great.
So after 2 weeks of trying to get rid of this thought, I said, “Fine! I’ll write a sermon on Genesis 34 and see where this goes.”
Disclaimer: If anyone is triggered by this story, please see Brad or myself. The Bible is not always about nice and wonderful events.
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Genesis 34 begins with a story about a horrible crime.
Dinah, the daughter of Jacob- who would later be called Israel, was out to visit other women in the countryside.
While she was walking around, Shechem – the son of a Prince, raped her.
The Bible is more tactful with the wording.
In verse 2 it reads, “He saw her, he took her and lay with her and violated her”.
This is a story of rape which is a crime beyond words.
He raped her because he saw her and wanted her.
There was no mention that he tried to talk to her, or court her, or attract her in a good way.
He raped her.
Only after the crime had been committed did he go to his father the Prince and try to make some arrangements with Jacob to marry her.
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Sadly, the first part of this story is very familiar to us.
On any given day people are being violated in body, mind or soul.
I have talked to women who have been raped.
Their horror is beyond my counselling skills, but I will be the friend who directs them to the police, and to the right counsellors who are trained to help people who have been sexually violated.
There are other acts of violence in the world.
The war continues between Russian and Ukraine and people have been killed or injured.
There is a truce between Palestine and Israel, but the feeling of betrayal or vengeance is strong on both sides.
In the United States ICE are picking up people at random and treating them shamefully.
No due process at all.
We may have been victims of financial fraud.
We may have been mugged.
We may have been bullied at school, or harassed in the work place.
Sadly, there are a lot of horrible things that happen in this world.
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The next part of the story in Genesis we can also understand.
When the brothers of Dinah heard about their sister being violated, vs 7 tells us that they were grieved and very angry.
This is very normal.
There are times when I struggle with Bible verses
In James 1:19-20 we are told “My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, because human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires.”
It is natural for us to experience anger in life.
When we see injustice, we should feel anger.
The emotion, in and of itself, is not wrong.
It is always what we do with that emotion that is important.
If our anger motivates us to seek justice, to help the weak, to comfort the downtrodden than that is good.
It is when our anger motivates us to get revenge, to seek an eye for an eye that it gets dangerous.
A car cuts us off traffic so we chase the car down and cut it off in a dangerous road race, is not a smart idea.
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When the brothers of Dinah heard what happened to their sister, they were angry, which is perfectly fine.
But then they decided to get revenge.
Before we get into the vengeance part, we also have to understand what happened after Dinah was violated.
There does not seem to be any remorse from Shechem after his act of violence.
Instead, he convinces his Father, the Prince, to go talk to Jacob about the possibility of his son marrying Dinah.
Think about how that woman must have felt.
She was raped and now the rapist wanted to spend more time with her.
No apology.
No punishment by the father of the one who raped Dinah.
There wasn’t even any discussion by the father with Jacob as to “What can be done to make up for such a crime.”
The Father simply tried to negotiate with Jacob about the price of the young woman.
The son even said
Vs. 12. Sheckem (The one who raped Dinah) who was there for the negotiation asks of Jacob, “ask me ever so much dowry and gift, and I will give according to what you say to me; but give me the young woman as a wife.”
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The gull of Sheckem to ask for Dinah must have infuriated Jacob and the sons.
This is where the story gets a bit weird.
The sons came up with a plan, that Jacob was not aware what the sons planned to do.
The brothers of Dinah said, “Well we can’t have our sister marry anyone who is uncircumcised.”
Now we know that circumcision was part of the covenant that God made with Abraham.
It was a blood covenant that every male went through to be part of God’s family.
Every Jew, to this day, as part of their faith gets circumcised.
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I was talking to a friend of mine who works as a chaplain in a prison in New Brunswick.
Sometimes the prisoners want special treatment.
Geoff told me that one day a person was tired of the normal prison food and declared himself Jewish so he would get different meals.
So Geoff, sat down with the person to discuss the sincerity of his faith.
Geoff then began to talk about the bris ceremony that all Jewish males must comply with.
The prisoner, nods his head and then asks, what is the bris ceremony.
Geoff explains that in order to be Jewish, to be in compliance with the Jewish faith, a special ceremony is held where the foreskin of your penis is cut off.
For some unbelievable reason, the prisoner no longer wanted to be Jewish.
Go figure!
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What is interesting about his text, is that the brothers convinced the Father, the son and all the men in that city to get circumcised.
This was nothing to do with religion.
This was not about convincing these people that they needed to become Jewish and part of the covenant with God.
It was all part of a revenge plot.
These men were told, “Well if you want to marry with our women, you have to become circumcised.”
And they did it!
The Prince convinced all his people in that city to be circumcised because if they did this, they would be able to intermarry with the Jewish people and eventually all their livestock, their property and their animals would eventually be theirs!
It was all about greed.
By being circumcised the men would get to marry the Jewish women and eventually get all their wealth.
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On the third day after all the males of the city got circumcised that Simeon and Levi decided on their own to go into the city and kill every male they could find.
Two men against a whole city, but none of the males were up to defending themselves.
When Jacob heard what happened, he was not happy.
At the end of chapter 34 we can read that Jacob was worried that other inhabitants of the land would hear what happened in that city and rise up to kill Jacob and all his family.
Jacob was thinking the big picture.
But the sons merely defended their actions by saying, “Should he treat our sister like a harlot?”
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In case we have any doubt that what these brothers did was wrong, go to Genesis chapter 49.
As Jacob was nearing death he gathered all his sons near him to give blessings or curses.
In verses 5-7 we can read:
“Simeon and Levi are brothers- their swords are weapons of violence. Let me not enter their council, let me not join their assembly, for they have killed men in their anger and hamstrung oxen as they pleased. Cursed be their anger, so fierce, and their fury, so cruel! I will scatter them in Jacob and disperse them in Israel.”
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So what lessons are we to learn from this?
Are we to simple forgive and forget, which is not a Biblical phrase.
No.
Forgiveness does not mean an absence of justice.
Forgiveness does not mean there should be no consequences for our actions.
The question remains, how do we balance the concept of justice, with our desire for revenge.
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As part of the Canadian Armed Forces, we are personnel trained to be violent.
We are not a social club.
We are not a feel-good club.
We are trained to kill.
We are trained to mess with the enemies’ minds.
HOWEVER, and this is a big HOWEVER, we have ROE’s
Rules of Engagement.
There are things we can do.
There are things we can’t do.
For example,
- we are only to target opposing Forces and Military objectives, not civilians.
- We are not allowed to attack those who surrender. We are to Disarm and Detain them.
- We are to treat all detained people humanely in accordance with the Geneva convention.
- Torture is prohibited.
As a nation, we usually abide by what is called the Just War Theory.
There are two components of the Just War Theory.
- The right to go to War
- The right conduct within war.
When we consider if we should go to war we need to consider:
- Just cause: War is permissible to confront a significant wrong.
- Legitimate Authority” Only duly recognized leaders or governments can declare war.
- Right Intention: What are we hoping to obtain? Are we hoping for peace, or justice.
- Last Resort: War should only be entered into if all other peaceful alternatives have been exhausted. (Diplomacy, sanctions, seizure of assests)
- Probability of Success: Is there a reasonable chance of success to avoid unnecessary loss of life.
- Proportionality: The anticipated benefits of the war much outweigh the potential harm it may cause.
In Genesis 34, the two brothers failed some of these moral criteria, which didn’t exist back then.
They may have had right case, but they were not the leaders of their people, so they took vengeance into their own hands.
There was no desire to seek repentance, or reparation for the persons crime.
This act of violence was not a last resort issue; it was the only thing told to us in this chapter.
There was no proportionality.
If the brothers sought to kill only the rapist, perhaps this wouldn’t have been too bad.
They decided to kill all the men of that city.
Many of these men would have had no connection to the rape of Dinah.
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We often need to apply these same principles to our own life.
A bully punches in at school.
Lets burn down his home.
Perhaps that is a little too much.
Our boss makes inappropriate comments to us.
Let’s get him or her fired.
Or perhaps we should go to human resources and do guided mediation and perhaps get an apology and have the person learn from their mistakes.
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When we are wronged, talk to someone.
Hopefully that person will temper our anger.
Hopefully we can figure out how to get justice without going overboard in revenge.
We have to be careful about rash decisions.
There is wisdom when we are told to “sleep on it”.
Perhaps don’t send that ugly email telling off our boss, or friend who wronged us.
Write it but don’t send it until you sleep on it.
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Seek justice.
Seek repentance from people who have wronged us.
But don’t lose your soul, in the desire for revenge.
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So what have we learned.
There is injustice in the world.
We have desire for revenge, but we need calm minds to figure out what is an appropriate and just response.
Even when justice is done, there can be a lingering feeling of injustice on the part of the one who has been wronged, and lots of emotional distress from those entrusted to carrying out acts of violence.
On this Remembrance Day Sunday, we need to pray for peace and for justice.
We need to pray for appropriate and balanced responses to international crimes and for harms committed in our own country.
We need to pray for people among us, who are also struggling and need our help, comfort and advice.
We need to continue to pray for those who are serving and for veterans who are often placed in harms way and have to live with their actions.
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This is easy for me to preach, but like you I have been wronged in the past and I have thought about revenge.
Thankfully, God helped to temper me.
We need to be there for people, to help, to comfort, to assist people in getting justice.
Listen to their anger and frustration.
But don’t give in to that anger that may lead you down a dark place.
Ultimately, there will be times when we feel justice is not found in this world.
That is when we can only hope and pray, that God will enact justice and if need be vengeance.
In Deuteronomy 32:35, it is written, “Vengeance is Mine; I will repay,”
That may be small comfort to us, but it may be all we get at times.
May God guide our actions as individuals and as a nation. Amen.
Song: The kingdom of God is justice and joy” (787)
We respond to serve God
Our time of giving
Prayers for ourselves and others
Gracious and holy God, we thank you for this opportunity of prayer, where we can confide in you not only our joys in life, but also our fears and worries. We pray for our country. It is indeed a beautiful place to live. We are bordered by oceans whose waves represent your tireless energy. We have mountains that testify to the height of your love for us. We have plains that seem to stretch out to infinity that reminds us of the eternal life you have for us. And you have filled this land with a very diverse people that reminds us that you love people of all colour, of all race, sex or age. We know that our country is not perfect. We know that we are a little scared about the direction our country is headed for we are not a country that is getting closer to you, but farther away. Guide us in your wisdom. Give your blessing upon the leaders of our country, as they lead with love, compassion and a sense of fairness.
We pray for the people in our country, who have been affected by the horror of war. There are many refugees who have come to our land to escape the insanity of violence that exists in many countries. May our country be a safe haven for those who have lived in fear of their life. We pray for the men and women who are serving in our armed forces today. Watch over them and bring them safely back to their loved one. We pray for the leaders of other countries and hope that reason and love will prevail in the midst of all this turmoil.
Lord, you are aware of the battles that we face in our own lives. We can battle the various diseases or injuries that plague our weary body. We can battle the frustration or depression that can haunt us and cripple our activities. We can be battling our grief and we wrestle with our loneliness, and the separation of one we dearly love and miss. And we can be having a spiritual battle, as we struggle to know what to believe or not to believe when it comes to our faith in you. Give to us your strength and courage in our time of need. Give answer to our many questions in life, and give to us the faith to trust you when some of our questions are left unanswered.
Song: Make me a channel of your peace (740)
Sending out with God’s blessing
Now may the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ
The love of God
And fellowship of Holy Spirit
Reside with us now and forever more. Amen
Response: Benediction (as you god)
Music postlude
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